Patent News | "Apple demanded $30 a phone from Samsung"

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Some interesting insights into the businesses of both Apple and Samsung are emerging from their high profile patent infringement trial in California, including details which are usually closely guarded. One is that Apple wanted $30 per smartphone and $40 per tablet from Samsung, in a 2010 licensing proposal, according to evidence.

Apple entered the document to demonstrate that it had previously offered terms to its rival. It had offered a deal on a portfolio of key patents, and had also proposed a 20% discount if Samsung would cross-license some of its own IPR. Apple also wanted royalties on Samsung's Windows phones in addition All that would have added up to $250m in 2010, according to Apple's calculations.

If Samsung loses this case, it could face fines of over $250bn, though the trial is also covering its own infringement claims against Apple, which may complicate any decisions.

At the end of last week Apple produced various experts to support its claims that Samsung had copied its designs and confused consumers. One was Karan Singh, professor of computer science at the University of Toronto, who testified that Samsung infringes a key patent on scrolling and zooming in 24 of its products.

"I concluded 24 Samsung products infringe claim 8 of the '915 patent," said Singh, who examined code Samsung provided for four of its phones. He claims offending models include the Galaxy S II, Ace, Captivate, Continuum, Droid Charge, Epic 4G, Exhibit 4G, Fascinate, Gem, Indulge, Infuse 4G, Galaxy Tab 7.0 and 10.1.

The '915 patent covers using a single finger to scroll, or two fingers to zoom into content with a reverse-pinch gesture. Samsung products also infringe Apple's '163 patent that covers using a double tap to zoom into and center content, Singh said.

Samsung's defence will include claims that prior art invalidates the Apple patents, as well as its own counter-claims.

Another Apple witness was Ravin Balakrishnan, a computer science professor and user interface expert from the same university. He said as many as 21 Samsung devices infringe Apple patent 7,469,381. The '381 patent covers bounce back when users scroll beyond the edge of content such as a web page.